“What Women Want” or “What Women Think?“

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“What Women Want” or “What Women Think?“

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First published on my Linkedin Profile.

Last night when flipping some channels I stumbled upon the movie “What Women Want”. A story about a guy, a marketer actually, who suddenly can hear women’s thoughts. What every guy would want right? Maybe not… Anyway, it also showed many things we as marketers actually run into.

I once wrote an article on movies every marketer should watch and come to think of it, this is one that could be added to the list (so I will). There are valuable lessons in there. When it comes to trying to understand your audience.

In “What Women Want” Mel Gibson is a marketer working for an advertising agency trying to ‘sell’ a product for women. He is good at his job. And most importantly: he makes an effort to understand women. By putting on make up, by wearing a dress, by using the products he wants to sell.

But he doesn’t really ‘get’ women yet, even when trying on their clothes. So he goes another step and tries to picture himself as a woman. He starts imagining an ad of a beautiful woman in a bikini on the beach and then stops and says, “Wait, I’m a lesbian”. At that point he realizes that he is still taking the men’s perspective on the products. He is incapable of stepping away from his side of the story, from the male perspective.

See Mel Gibson trying to ‘understand’ women:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRCNDBfVhJ0

It is not until he starts hearing women’s thoughts that he starts get a better grip on his ‘target audience’ (women). But even then he is still interpreting. After all: there is a difference between understanding and hearing your audience.

By listening carefully he can at least ‘act’ on what he hears, even if he doesn’t really understands women, at least he understands what he can do to speak to them best.

Listening is one part of getting closer to your audience. It will give you a lot of information about your target audience. It will not yet make you understand them though, because that is based on interpretation. You interpret what you hear.

There is something else that is interesting as well here. Gibson can listen into the thoughts of the women; he can hear what they really think. But when he confronts them with it by asking them about the exact same thing they were thinking of, they won’t say that in public. They won’t admit to what they are actually are thinking.

The same thing happens often when you start asking your target audience what they want. With polls or questionnaires for example. In most cases respondents will give you the answer they think you want to hear, instead of the answer they truly think.

As a marketer trying to understand this means that looking at behavior will probably give you more insights than asking questions.

Back to the movie: maybe the title should have been ‘what women think’ instead of ‘what women want’ (altough I realise that sells less), because in most cases the women themselves don’t even know what they want, just like customers and audiences. What they think however will give you more insights.


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Netflix Type Publishing: 5 Years of SEO

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I’m trying out something new and very special today on State of Digital:

I’m posting not just 1, but 8 (!) articles at the same time. ‘Netflix style publishing’ to give readers all they need around one topic at the same time, no wait, no searching, it’s just there.

In this case I to experts and looked back on 5 years of SEO and looked at these topics:

Why this style?

I’ve been looking at the behavior of people and am starting to see more and more that people want to have one place from which they have a starting point around a topic and work from there. Also it seems as if people don’t want to wait. This means posts that go one by one where people have to wait a day are becoming less interesting.

So I decided to test it out. I was writing an article on the changes in SEO (one of those end of the year articles) where I got a lot of opinions from experts in. When writing I started noticing that the article would be too long s it became two, then three articles.

At that point I realised I could try out something new here: publish multiple posts at the same time, giving the readers the option to choose what to read and when, around the same topic.

So instead of just writing down the quotes from the experts I started to organise it by topic and with that came these 8 articles.

I’m curious to see how this will be received and if it has future, so do let me know what you think of this style of publishing! I already noticed that publishing this many at once could make some social ‘noise’, so we’ll have to see how that goes. I could also choose to publish one via social and don’t share the others on social.

Any way, do let me know what you think of this type of publishing!

(Also published on Linkedin)


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Yes, I am joining the Linkdex team!

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I have some news, which some of you saw coming, and may surprise others: I am joining the Linkdex team!

In the past few years I have been doing a lot of different things. I’ve set up blogs like Searchcowboys and State of Search/ State of Digital. I’ve been doing training sessions for business schools and colleges, I have worked with the DMA, I have been consulting for big and small companies like KLM, MTV and Koozai for example and I have been speaking around the globe on digital marketing related topics.

All that time there was one thing that I was missing: working with a team of smart colleagues. Of course there is the State of Digital team, which I love working with, but they all have day jobs on the side as well. At Linkdex I will get the opportunity to work with smart people who are actually hired by Linkdex.

In the past four years I have met with the people of Linkdex many times. Mostly at conferences. People like Matt Roberts and Collette Easton have turned into friends on those trips. We also worked together on different occasions, like for example the e-books we published together with State of Digital and Linkdex. In all those years Matt Roberts from Linkdex has asked me a few times if I didn’t want to come and work for them. The timing was never right.

Linkdex2014Now however the moment seems right. With State of Digital we are on route and the site is ready to take the next steps based on the strategy we have set out and with Sam Noble helping me out there I am getting a bit more time on my hands. Which makes that when Matt asked me the last time I started considering working with Linkdex and got more excited every time we talked.

And now we are making it official: as of December 1st I am joining the Linkdex team. working on the Social and Digital PR and Marketing for Linkdex and Momentology!

This gives me the opportunity to work with a great team of people and built out a product and a website which both have a lot of potential!

But wait, what about the other stuff?

As said, I do a lot of different things. And I will continue to do so. I will be spending a lot of time at Linkdex yes, but the consultancy for companies like MTV and KLM will still be there, as will the training sessions for Beeckestijn and others. I will also still be speaking around the world and State of Digital will run as usual. I will be more on the background there, but don’t worry, I will be there!

Is there time for that you ask? Well, we’ll have to see of course, but I think there is, since the way I do consultancy is different from others: you hire me for example for half a day, not for a long term period, it’s session based. The training sessions are usually in the evenings anyway and State of Digital can be done everywhere. I also won’t be working full time for Linkdex so there will be plenty of room for other things as well, so don’t be afraid to get in touch about that!

For now I am happy to make this announcement and excited to be working with Linkdex. Keep an eye out for all other things! More news to come soon!!


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Asking my audience to help me understand them better

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Yesterday (Wednesday October 1st) I spoke at the Email Marketing Evolved conference in Stockholm. The organisers Apsis had arranged this event for the third time. It was my first time there and I was accompanied by some great speakers like Jay Baer, Andrew Kordek and Dietmar Dahmen. All brilliant speakers so it was tough to stand out.

I think the conference itself was great. The organisers wanted to connect e-mail more with other digital channels and I believe they succeeded. It was an inspiring day. I’d like to share with you something new I tried out. I asked my audience for help.

My talk

My talk was about Understanding your audience using data driven marketing, a topic I speak about more often and help businesses with in their efforts of trying to understand their customers and audience better.

As a speaker it sometimes can be very difficult to really get a grip on your audience, because they always come from very different backgrounds. So I try to get as close as I can. This can be confusing sometimes, like the day before when I spoke in Istanbul about Netflix. Netflix isn’t available in Turkey. I knew that but spoke about it anyway because it was a very mixed audience from different countries and because the example of Netflix is a really good one for start-ups who are trying to get a grip of their target audience.

But I’ll talk about Turkey another time. First back to Sweden.

At the conference I tried something new. I really want to make an effort to understand my audience so I asked my audience for feedback. The problem with asking for feedback however is that usually they either don’t tell the complete truth or they keep it to the simplest levels: good, medium or bad. This doesn’t really help me understand what they are taking away from my talk.

So I asked the audience for their notes.

Every audience is always making notes. Being on their computer, tablet or on paper. I decided I wanted to see these notes. So I asked the audience to tweet out a picture of their notes after my session.

I knew that this was tricky to do in Sweden, because the audience in Sweden is mostly a little bit more reserved than elsewhere. They are very knowledgeable, but talk less. But the result was great.

I got regular tweets with feedback and feedback in person afterwards, and I got pictures of the notes from some very nice and helpful people in the audience.

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What I learned

Looking at the notes helped me figure out a few things about my speech, which will make that I can improve my talks for next times. In some cases it was hard because it wasn’t in English, but here are a few learnings from the notes:

– The message that we need to make a bigger effort to try and understand our audiences came through;
– People really understood the different groups you need to split up your audiences in (Seekers, amplifiers, joiners, buyers);
– People like tricks;
– Stories ‘stick’, I have to make sure the message is very clear;
– The quotes I put on the screen come back in the notes;
– People on average will take away 3-5 things. Don’t put more in;
– The competitor’s data part in the presentation didn’t show up in the notes;
– Social Media platforms like FB-groups, G+ and Linkedin were ignored in the notes.

Some nice learnings there for me. Some I already knew, some refreshing new information as well. I think for me personally it was a success. And somehow (but I haven’t checked that) I think this helped the audience as well, because they will have maybe looked at their notes differently.

I might do this again!

Thank you and a present…

Off course I couldn’t do this without the help of the audience. So first of all I want to thank the audience for their help and in specific the senders of the notes: @camlarsch, @PiaAhti, @LeilaHeijola, @Petra_R, @CarolineSolen, @ailahdus, @ahovrell, @elisinator.

As promised I would thank one of them with a gift, the book of Jay Baer, Youtility.

The one I’d like to give the gift to is Åsa Hovrell (@ahovrell) who tweeted her notes that were made using mind mapping. And I love mind maps, use them all the time, so that’s why she won. Thank you Åsa, get in touch and I’ll send you the gift!

@ahovrell


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One Year State of Digital: Thoughts, Future and Thank You

Category:State of Search

(Also posted on Linkedin)

 

Yesterday was my own birthday, I turned 42. But it also was the birthday of ‘my digital baby’: State of Digital. And it was only the first birthday. Last year on September 17th we launched the ‘new’ website.

Well, not really new, after all for the few years before it was called State of Search. A website I originally set up with Lisa Myers and built out to be the biggest of its kind in Search in Europe in only 2 years. I was running it, but did that with the help of many.

The re-brand last year wasn’t just a new name however, it was a new direction. It wasn’t a step away from search, it was a step towards a more integrated digital marketing world. A world in which Search, Social, Conversion, E-mail all work together ‘as one’. A world in which not the tool or the channel comes first, but the audience. You could say a revival of ‘the customer comes first’.

But when I say ‘the customer comes first’ I can’t help but think that that is interpreted most as ‘doing whatever the customer asks you to do. Where I believe that (thinking about the segmentation remark I made before) it should be about understanding the customer, or audience (whatever name you want to give it). And after the understanding comes the delivering. Understanding, again, is not the same as doing what someone tells you they want, but doing what comes most natural.

And that’s what State of Digital should be about: getting an understanding of how to do that best as a marketer.

Getting back to the site…

I have worked hard on the ‘new’ site last year to give it the right direction. That has gone with ups and downs. As I said in my post “Lessons from one year State of Digital” yesterday: it only starts after the rebrand.

I must admit that there have been times on which I thought ‘why am I doing this again?’, but funny enough in the last few weeks it has become more clear on why and how. I still believe in the same things as last year, but an important lesson I learned, which I didn’t put in the article, but will share with you here, is that I had too much of a ‘rush’ myself. I wanted things to go faster, I wanted people to immediately understand and embrace what I was doing. But that’s not possible. For one thing because it’s my idea, not theirs.

Also for business reasons I tried to speed up things which need time. That doesn’t always work, and to be honest, it can actually slow you down. Dropping the ‘need for speed’ attitude gave me a lot of relief recently. I am now making plans again for the site, for new things and for exciting things, but with an understanding of time. We are working with only volunteers on the site, absolutely nobody gets paid. Which is a big difference for example with websites like Searchengineland, Marketingland or The Next Web, who all have paid editors getting content out there. I’m not saying that makes us better, it doesn’t, working with paid editors has its own challenges, but it’s different.

It means that we will need to take more time to get where we want. And that’s what we’ll be doing in the upcoming year. Taking our time to build quality. Which will mean more quality articles, some webinars, some white papers and more. But always with this thought in mind: quality over speed.

It will also give me time to do some other exciting things, like more writing, speaking and who knows, a surprising exciting project soon.

And then I’m sure that we will be able to do what I have in mind with State of Digital: make it a platform that will help marketers do a better job, by better understanding the audience.

And hey, we have time, after all, we’re only 1 year old right 😉

Thanking a few people:

So, one day after our birthday I want to thank a few people for their support in the past year and before. Support which consisted of different things: from hands on help (writing, building, designing) to mental help to strategical help and network help.

I know I will be forgetting people so apologies if I do, but here are some names of people who helped and whom I’m thankful for:

Off course the : Sam Noble, Barry Adams, Jo Turnbull, Louis Venter, Jackie Hole, Sarah Bradley, Annabel Hodges.

The bloggers from State of Digital: Russell, Agnete, Aleyda, Arienne, Arianne, Claire, Clarissa, Dave, Gemma, Gianluca, James, Jodie, Kate, Krystian, Laura, Marcus, Matt, Ned, Neil, Polly, Shelli, Bastian and Stephanie

Those that blogged for us before (also on State of Search): Alex, Ben, Bryant, Carla, Cindy, Claire, Evert, Haukur, James C, James M, Jason, Jeroen, Jon, Kelvin, Martijn, Michel, Nichola, Nick, Paddy, Paul, Peter, Sam C, Sam M, Paddy, Hannah and Sarah

Those that helped me get started in what I do: Lisa Myers off course (thanks for the ‘pepper’ ;-), her husband and friend Jon Myers, all the people at Dutch Cowboys, Roy Huiskes (still miss our radioshow!), Joost de Valk, Dave Naylor, Becky Naylor, the people from Jong Management in The Hague (Kim, Tessa, Frank, Herbert), Dixon Jones, Marcus Tandler, Esther ‘Wilg’ Gons, Louis (and Roisin off course!) Venter, Webmasterradio guys Brasco and Daron, the people at Basket Builders, Frankwatching,

Friends who supported with strategical or just ‘mental’ assistance: Kristjan Mar Hauksson, Matt Roberts, Collette Easton, Paul Madden, Dom Hodgson, Sara Clifton, Kaspar Szymanski, Jose Truchado, Bryan Eisenberg, Andy Betts, Lee Odden, Alain Heureux, Nita Huang and James Murray.

Industry friends that helped in different ways: Gareth Hoyle, Martin McDonald, Dennis Goedegebuure, Rishi Lakhani, Ben Norman, Mel Carson, Mikkel de Mib Svendsen, Andy Atkins, Paddy Moogan, Cedric Chambaz, Kristine, Simon Heseltine, Kevin Gibbons, Jon Henshaw, Andrew Girdwood, Crispin Sheridan, Chris Boggs, Nick Garner, Michael Bonfils, Angie, Anne Kennedy, Eduard, Motoko and Bill, the search awards judges, Fili Wiese, Julie, Jeffrey Eisenberg, Barry Schwartz, Debra Mastaler.

Those in the events business: Rebecca Tandler, Mike Grehan, Matthew Wood, Danny Sullivan, Nicky Wake, Dan Bell, Jackie Bissell, Jonathan Allen, Chris Johnson, Matt McGowan, The SMX crowd (Matthew and Sandra Finley).

And then off course finally my family, the wife and kids and parents. And off course everybody I worked with or partied with in the past years 😉 and everyone I forgot!

Thank you all 🙂

Now, enough with all the ‘softness’, let’s get to work! 🙂


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* Highly sought-after professional keynote speaker, trainer and strategist
* Awarded European Search Personality 2015
* More than 15 years of web experience
* Award winning consultant, trainer and professional speaker
* Founder of State of Digital
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